JavaScript is disabled. Some SMLEs may be found with as little as a 3 digit number and high as a 5 digit number. ROF (F)- Royal Ordinance Factory, Fazakerley, UK, FY- Royal Ordinance Factory,Fazakerley, UK, (F)-Royal Ordinance Factory,Fazakerley, UK, UF-Royal Ordinance Factory,Fazakerley, UK, Long Branch- Small Arms Ltd., Long Branch, Ontario, Canada, P.O.F.- Pakistan Ordnance Factory, Wah, Pakistan. 1.5 - Added 200% more memes for all my Brazilian fans. II* bayonets from 19421945. 1 Mk III or III*, with the original MLE and LEC becoming obsolete along with the earlier SMLE models. The very early contracts at Holland and Holland for T conversion included selected rifles from Savage, Longbranch, Maltby and BSA (a single Fazakerley example has been documented @ 2020) - this was too much variation for the conversion process to be efficient and by early 1942 only BSA rifles were to be converted. Re: Lee Enfeild No 4 Mk1 Markings by Saxon Cross 23 Mar 2012, 13:50 Your serial No. The stock was made by . This example was reworked post-War following the change from Roman to Arabic numbering. However, these scabbards are encountered far too frequently for only 25,000 to have been made. This is a Lee Enfield No. Quest starts at lvl15+. I like using the triangular sling swivel to deliberately tighten the sling around my hand to grip the fore-end when using a shooting glove, Lee Enfield books by Ian Skennerton - Ideal reference information, Genuine Lee Enfield No4 Mk1 T Parts, Features, Marks and Accessories, Here we have a scopeless and virtually unfired 1945 No4T on the left and an "active service" No4T on the right that had its last service with India, other than the metal being painted with lumpy glossy black paint it is predominantly unchanged, On the left, the scopeless one exhibits all marks as freehand stamps through the blackened surface. So BSA Shirley, that produced the No4 rifles was designated "M47C" (Midlands region, sequential supplier no 47, factory C). 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Cure Date: PS over K inside a circle (pictured at left) Ltd. (pictured at left) . The last year observed on these sights using the SM mark is 1943 as per the right hand example, then the S69 code is used - again on major components (sight ladder (top left of the face), cursor (left side), elevation screw (top) and elevations screw nut (back). endstream endobj 770 0 obj<> endobj 771 0 obj<> endobj 773 0 obj<>/Font<>/ProcSet[/PDF/Text]/ExtGState<>>>>> endobj 774 0 obj[775 0 R 776 0 R] endobj 775 0 obj<> endobj 776 0 obj<> endobj 777 0 obj<> endobj 778 0 obj<> endobj 779 0 obj<> endobj 780 0 obj/DeviceGray endobj 781 0 obj<> endobj 782 0 obj<>stream Pakistan and India added the "Ishapore" screw to reinforce the front wood forward of the knox (more likely job creation for armourers). It is found on early rifles that saw full service (1941 Maltby - un-peened pad screws evident), It is on unissued "scopeless" rifles from 1944 and on later "scopeless" and service experienced 1945 rifles. The rifle Savage produced was the Lee-Enfield No.4 Mk.1*, a British military design that was adopted by the U.K. just a few years before World War II began. The No. Savage used variations of both a plain "s" and an "s" inside a Square. The following makers' codes are noted on some bayonet blades and scabbards, it is quite possible that they may also appear on firearms and related components. 0000007555 00000 n On the left, the scopeless one exhibits all marks as freehand stamps under the blackened surface - except the serial which may be a light stamp or a very precise electro-pencil. 1 for the British military. During refurbishment the bulk of German markings were scrubbed (although some waffenampts are still present and evidence of markings being removed is clear), further the original . not at all lol, from the markings I can find and other details would you guys say it's a long branch with a savage magazine? There were basic diagrams and instructions in the various Sniping training pamphlets, however I wanted to add a little more description and variation (with photos. N30 over H&B (pictured at left). According to Skennerton, more than 2 million Mk. Lewisham marked their bayonets with "L. ENG. The Crown Corporation Small Arms Ltd., Long Branch, Ontario, Canada, made approximately 910,000 No. not 8.8 Barrel length is 25 1/4 inches, not 25 2 inches Information on the scope as well would be appreicated. The following maker marks are pictured at left: This scabbard is pictured on page 133 of Graham Priests book, Spirit of the Pike - British Socket Bayonets of the 20th Century. According to the author, the example in my collection is still the only brass-throated scabbard reported. These prefixes can be used to authenticate these rifles if found in a gun shop or personal collection. I, Scabbard (Throat): broad arrow proofmark, Tool: "BRADES" over "1944" over broad arrow proofmark. An additional 1944 Wrist / Action stamping group - an excellent condition example. The Belgians received Lee-Enfield No. Genuine early, When the war expedient models were produced (initially with the "L" flip sight, then those selected for conversion to T status had to have the rear sight replaced with a modified micrometer sight (H&H indicated this had been done by stamping the "S" on the front of the right receiver wall ( this happened to most, but not all!) 4 Mk. It is essentially an updated N0. 4Mk. 1 Mk. This condition remained until the end of the No4T life and the introduction of its replacement - the L42. This suggests production by a private contractor that was paid according to the number of pieces accepted. The last picture shows an unusual Prince-Smith mark comprised of a large "56" on the socket face. The scabbard is a Mk. 0000001613 00000 n .303 isn't any different that anything else. Surplus Lee-Enfield spike bayonet with scabbard/sheath. II* (pronounced: number four, mark two, star) was a further simplified version, with the socket and blade two separate forgings. Qty 1 F Sep 1986 It does appear to have been sent thru a re-furbishing and re-build at some time in its life by all the markings not made by Savage. The Canadian Arsenals trademark was adopted in 1947 and replaced the Long Branch trademark used during the Second World War. Lee Enfield No4 Mk* Long Branch 1944 - SOLD No4 Mk1 Fazakerley 1944 Serial KC25154 - Sold No4 Mk1 Maltby 1942 Serial M10655 - Sold No4 Mk1* Sterling 7.62mm Conversion - Sold AIA Lee Enfield M10-A1 Cal: 7.62x39mm - Sold Long Branch No4 Mk1* 1950 - Long Butt - SOLD No4 Mk1 7.62mm - SOLD No4 Mk1 BSA 1942 - Sold No4 Mk1 Fazakerley 1942 - Sold by Saxon Cross 22 Mar 2012, 21:33, Post II* over BEC N96, inside an oval (pictured at left). ownership marking. Advertisements. [QUOTE=Twodogs]My Long Branch No4 Mk1* has the "angled Transition". My thought is its a Savage No4 Mk1* lend lease made in 1942, It has the ( S ) markings and machine marks, The receiver, barrel . Bayonet Lee Enfield No. The easiest way to identify a "Jungle Carbine" rifle is to look for the markings on the left hand side of the receiver; a genuine No. These were originated for the No4 rifle design by Singer Machine Co, hence they are often referred to as a "singer sight". $40.59. and N74 - sometimes both in the same instance (pus inspection / receiving marks). BRITISH or CANADIAN WWII ENFIELD SLING or BREN used cond. 4 bayonet evolved (or devolved), with each generation becoming more crude and cheaper to manufacture. Thanks to inter-war development, an improved and simplified design was waiting in the wings, and the No. The stocks of British manufactured examples are typically a naturally seasoned English walnut that has a moderately dark brown color and has a tight, straight grain. 4Mk. Little is known about these British No. The frog measures 4.875in. Essentially both types of sling present 3 loops, to form a better control on the stance with the firearm to hold and return to a sighting zero (natural point of aim) - I have personally experienced this in CMP competitions, where sling use during rapid fire is essential. Being a Mk1* we knew that though. #6. The markings in the other photos are not mentioned, except the '2' on the bolt head, which is its size (there being several sizes available to get the head space right). "S" for rear sight replaced (at Hollands)- "needs re-sighting", Serial Numbers - other than the receiver wrist and bolt. 4Mk. Maryland Shooters is the most active and largest Maryland gun community online. by Steve Hoog 23 Mar 2012, 15:17, Post These war time sling swivels were made by Hollands and are typically browned steel. II was a simplified version, eliminating the milling cuts required to create the cruciform blade flutes. Buy Lee Enfield spike bayonet with scabbard No3 Mk1 No4 Mk2: GunBroker is the largest seller of Bayonets Knives & Swords All: 972734854 . 4 Mk I Long Branch aperture sights In 1926, the British Army changed its nomenclature; the SMLE became known as the Rifle No. Many Baird examples have a crowned IG mark on the socket. British Lee-Enfield No7 Mk1/L knife bayonet, scabbard and frog M/78 Date 1954. These later T's often went into stock as "Scopeless" - a rifle in a transit chest as a spare part - awaiting a need and the addition of a scope and bracket - plus all the other CES. He was born in 1921 and later served as a navy corpsman in Japan and Korea. The British No. Danish Lee Enfield No4 Mk1 Green Canvas Sling HTK. 0000013109 00000 n II* socket bayonet was used in Iraq during the Second World War and by the Iraqi Army after the end of British occupation in 1947. This example has a much finer finish on the socket than other No. The volume of serial number inquiries has prompted me to fashion this page together and try and explain how best to identify a particular rifles manufacturer. The U.S.M5 scabbard was made by Beckwith Manufacturing Co. of Dover, New Hampshire. Among the markings on the No. Smith & Wesson's new M&P FPC is a compact, folding pistol-caliber carbine chambered in 9 mm Luger and designed to accept the company's M&P handgun magazines. over S376, inside a rectangle. Feedback from the initial service performance at the front (often from prior experienced target shooters) indicated that longer slings with a central mount at the front of the magazine would be preferred. $799.00 . Over the years I have received many emails regarding serial numbers. I is the most commonly encountered scabbard, outnumbering all others combined. Manufacturers in North America did not use Dispersal Codes. The company disappeared in 1970. 0000002978 00000 n Israeli domestic made scope brackets are unique. I and some Prince-Smith examples exhibiting rough tool marks. This example was made in the USA by the Savage Stevens Co. of Chicopee Falls, Massachusetts. They would apply this mark to th butt heel - running along the axis of the rifle - red with the muzzle on the left. II became No. 4Mk. The period of manufacture is believed to be late-1940s or early-1950s. Weight unloaded is Nine pounds even (I weighed it!) Type: British infantry rifle. The entrenching tool was made by William Hunt & Sons, The Brades Ltd., Brades Steel Works, Oldbury, near Birmingham. 0000001961 00000 n Rear Sights are flip-up adjustable aperature micrometer sights, not vertical leaf. 4Mk. They have a high standard of fit and finish, feel solid and robust and are a joy at the rifle range, where, due to a magic thing near exclusive to Enfields called Positive Compensation, 1000 yard accuracy can . Baird marked their bayonets two different ways: Some No. We set ourselves apart by supplying unique parts at a good value and standing by our products by offering outstanding customer service. J'aime Je n'aime pas : Lee Enfield No4 Mk1 vs Armes modernes en .308 : Page 1 sur 1: Sujets similaires. For example, No. Method III The rifle was dated 1942 and a lot of the No 4 and some No 1 SMLEs issued to South Africa was eventually sold to the SAP agencies then onto the surplus market. 4 Mk. The Lee Enfield by Ian Skennerton (2007) - ISBN: 9780949749826 . The finish varies considerably between manufacturers, with Baird bayonets approaching the excellent finish of the No. Scabbard makers included: This uncommon scabbard has parallel sides and is made of very lightweight steel tubing. 4Mk. Two Swiss codes are noted. II bayonets packaged in a cardboard carton. Per the contract and description Hollands were to remove the L / "flip" battle sight when present from the sending factory and replace it with one of their provided milled micrometer sights (either Singer Machine or Savage made and marked) - this would leave the rifle needing a new "zero" - a pass through an "Enfield Rest" test. Auto Engineering produced approx. Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. Adopted by the British Army in 1939 the No.4 came into full production during the height of World War 2. II* bayonets. It is stamped nothing at all like yours. Snipers in the field (Europe) were prove to take a Bren length webbing sling and leave the 1907 Leather behind. Unfired and as clean and bright as the day it was born in the Fazakerley Royal Ordnance Factory in Liverpool in 1954. H&B 1* is functionally the same as the Mk.1, but various changes were made in the design to make the manufacturing process faster. Mid Band - This fabricated example is marked for S126 (C.E. According to Graham Priest, on a rough scale of observations, he indicated that you see 100P.S.& S.Ltd for every circle mark; 150P.S.K for every circle mark, and 500N56 or unmarked for every circle mark. VNS mark represents "Viners Ltd. Sheffield, England" a subcontractor of Enfield parts. The Government assigned each manufacturer a Dispersal Code to use in lieu of their trademark. After wrapping the point, this bayonet would have been oiled and sealed in clear plastic. This "last-ditch" SMLE was manufactured in 1943, and it has all the signs of a wartime firearm made in the throws of desperation. Henry Repeating Arms recently presented a $25,000 check a nonprofit organization that provides support and programs for the families and co-workers of firefighters killed in the line of duty. I scabbard in web belt frogs made for use with the Pattern 1907 bayonet. The Enfield No4 MK1 was one of the most prominent battle rifles ever produced. 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